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Si1verR0se said: Well yes, I know it's 5 episodes long but I don't expect the long winded Office war last that long.Hulio said: We're nearly half-way there and the next 3-4 episodes will be the worst time wasting we've seen in Higurashi, hurray the Child Welfare War. Next five episodes, btw. Tatriakashi will be 5 episodes long. So... residentsleeper mode: ON It will also like have the beginning of Nekodamashi, meaning we'll get to see the head tilting AC guy going on rampage, atleast something funny to wait for. iiKrina said: Spoiled myself with the leak before hand. Don't know how much more ridiculous it would have felt to see it first in the episode itself, but daaamn it sure was ridiculous.I almost died laughing at Mion stuffing Rika's body into a toilet, what the actual fuck. I guess this is where we are now. To be honest, Mion and Satoko's confrontation and whipping their guns out and shit was kinda cool. I guess it would have been cool, but I just can't buy it.Mion had Satoko on a gunpoint, and was already pressing trigger, meanwhile Satoko was carrying that big Soy Bottle. Then suddenly in split second she pulled that gun from her magic pocket and blew her guts out...? And of course Mion didn't see this happening. |
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| My opinion of this episode is the same as the last episode. Great acting, great animation, great directing, but I just don't care for the story. Maybe the next arc will be more interesting. |
Si1verR0se said: Ah, yes. I remember. Satokowashi is the continuation of Matsuribayashi, which happened before all the -damashi arc. Thanks!Satokowashi happens before Onidamashi though. In terms of chronology of SotsuGou Satokowashi is the first arc Edit: Wait. There's still something not right. Tataridamashi/Tatariakashi happened after Watadamashi/Wataakashi, but why was Teppei Houjo... Ah, yes! YES!! I think I know what would happen in Tatariakashi. I'll write my hypothesis below: |
flashholterJul 29, 2021 11:34 PM
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| I wonder if this was Rika's most "disrespectful" death till date. Also, F for Mion's character. Not gonna lie, I feel kinda sorry for those who had to see their favorite character suffering the HS for the first time just to later see her being degraded to the point of becoming another run-of-the-mill yandere. Atrocious episode and probably among the worst ones this new installment of Higurashi has presented. -Nail ripping scene was stupidly censored yet Mion losing her fingers wasn't so why bother? -The timing of the scenes with Mion shaking the ladder in GOU and her "disposing" of Rika's body in SOTSU doesn't match. -Mion managing to move Rika's corpse across the school's yard at daylight without being noticed despite having everybody outside looking exactly for Rika. -Satoko materializing her gun from thin air and managing to shoot first even though Mion was already pulling the trigger of her own revolver. -No intention of explaining how Keiichi managed to break free from an iron cell. -Since they were just about to break in, the police should have heard Satoko's first gunshot quite clearly yet they never appeared in scene. Of course, the kid still needed to ask her questions and leave the crime scene as ambiguous as possible. What? 4 gunshots and still no response from the authorities? Is Hinamizawa village located in Latin-america by any chance? -Satoko believing in Mion's words despite the latter being beyond the point of sanity and then proceeding to kill herself without much hesitation. Simply fantastic. |
SouthRzVaJul 30, 2021 12:39 AM
flashholter said: Si1verR0se said: Ah, yes. I remember. Satokowashi is the continuation of Matsuribayashi, which happened before all the -damashi arc. Thanks!Satokowashi happens before Onidamashi though. In terms of chronology of SotsuGou Satokowashi is the first arc Edit: Wait. There's still something not right. Tataridamashi/Tatariakashi happened after Watadamashi/Wataakashi, but why was Teppei Houjo... Ah, yes! YES!! I think I know what would happen in Tatariakashi. I'll write my hypothesis below: This is pure speculation based on Gou. I dont think the spoiler tag is necessary? Teppei would know that the Houjou Family was not liked in Hinamaizawa, and Satoko would just have to tell him that the villagers were mistreating her. Teppei might also be drugged to some extent. In Gou we got a shot of that so its fair to assume that. Ooshi comes and goes to Hinamaizawa. Sotoko after multiple loops and Rikas memories would be familliar with his schedule. If Mion didnt notice Satoko injecting her, I dont see how Ooshi would. The small possibility of him naturally reaching L5 is also possible. With Satoko dropping some titbits to him about the Sonozaki familys shady actions. Teppei killing Keichii would just be because he spearheaded him getting seperated from Satoko. |
Chargecoulomb said: That's the best specualation I can agree with.This is pure speculation based on Gou. I dont think the spoiler tag is necessary? Teppei would know that the Houjou Family was not liked in Hinamaizawa, and Satoko would just have to tell him that the villagers were mistreating her. Teppei might also be drugged to some extent. In Gou we got a shot of that so its fair to assume that. Ooshi comes and goes to Hinamaizawa. Sotoko after multiple loops and Rikas memories would be familliar with his schedule. If Mion didnt notice Satoko injecting her, I dont see how Ooshi would. The small possibility of him naturally reaching L5 is also possible. With Satoko dropping some titbits to him about the Sonozaki familys shady actions. Teppei killing Keichii would just be because he spearheaded him getting seperated from Satoko. Si1verR0se said: I believe throwing someone's corpse into a septic tank is disrespectful.She was strangled, what's so "disrespectful" in the death here? I mean, she was dead before she was thrown into the septic |
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| Wow, Yandere Simulator gameplay reference. Why did he do it at school? Rika Toilet-Bound Scheme: 1. Follow Rika 2. Kill Rika during school break 3. Hide corpse in warehouse 4. Enter class 5. Tell teacher to look outside 6. Find lock & padlock in teacher's office 7. Dispose body in toilet 8. Lock toilet. If in the game (i mean), everyone in school must be interrogated before being allowed to go home. Mion should get rid of all evidence, but here Mion left padlock which is actually a very strong piece of evidence, Mion could have been arrested right away. |
ArzetyaJul 30, 2021 7:58 AM
Arzetya said: Wow, Yandere Simulator gameplay reference. Why did he do it at school? Rika Toilet-Bound Sheme: 1. Follow Rika 2. Kill Rika during school break 3. Hide corpse in warehouse 4. Enter class 5. Tell teacher to look outside 6. Find lock & padlock in teacher's office 7. Dispose body in toilet 8. Lock toilet. If in the game (i mean), everyone in school must be interrogated before being allowed to go home. Mion should get rid of all evidence, but here Mion left padlock which is actually a very strong piece of evidence, Mion could have been arrested right away. Thank you, you made my day. Why would an school outside toilet have such a big hole when there's little children using it? They could trip and fall into that. |
| damn the episodes so morbid!!! beyond brutal and ruthless!!! 5/5. |
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| Meh probably one of the better ways to die compared to stabbing herself with a knife or other things we've seen so far. I'll admit the Satoko vs Mion showdown was pretty fun to watch if nothing else. Although I realized that it is quite convenient that Takano decided to cancel her plan right as these new loops started because they'd usually kill Satoko first if she was with Rika and then ritualistically kill Rika at the shrine later which would completely fuck up Satoko's plan if it happened just once. And one Satoko with a gun probably wouldn't be able to defeat the mountain dogs. |
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flashholter said: Ah, yes. I remember. Satokowashi is the continuation of Matsuribayashi, which happened before all the -damashi arc. Thanks! Edit: Wait. There's still something not right. Tataridamashi/Tatariakashi happened after Watadamashi/Wataakashi, but why was Teppei Houjo... Ah, yes! YES!! I think I know what would happen in Tatariakashi. I'll write my hypothesis below: The only problem I have with this theory is that the Gou manga did not have Teppei, or anyone for that matter, attacking Keiichi at the Houjou's house. It only had Ooishii suddenly went L5 and his killing spree during the dance. From how Satoko reacted in both the anime and manga, chances are she didn't do anything to Ooishii. But it does begs the question about the major plot difference between the two media and is the only reason why am I begrudgingly willing to follow through whatever bullshit Tatariakashi will have. Though, I'm also guessing none of this matters and I'll get disappointed anyway. Well, I still have to prepare myself for seeing Satoko faking the abuse and Teppei agreed to it because he's her bitch now, but that's beside the point. |
LockeGran said: flashholter said: Ah, yes. I remember. Satokowashi is the continuation of Matsuribayashi, which happened before all the -damashi arc. Thanks! Edit: Wait. There's still something not right. Tataridamashi/Tatariakashi happened after Watadamashi/Wataakashi, but why was Teppei Houjo... Ah, yes! YES!! I think I know what would happen in Tatariakashi. I'll write my hypothesis below: The only problem I have with this theory is that the Gou manga did not have Teppei, or anyone for that matter, attacking Keiichi at the Houjou's house. It only had Ooishii suddenly went L5 and his killing spree during the dance. From how Satoko reacted in both the anime and manga, chances are she didn't do anything to Ooishii. But it does begs the question about the major plot difference between the two media and is the only reason why am I begrudgingly willing to follow through whatever bullshit Tatariakashi will have. Though, I'm also guessing none of this matters and I'll get disappointed anyway. Well, I still have to prepare myself for seeing Satoko faking the abuse and Teppei agreed to it because he's her bitch now, but that's beside the point. There is a huge difference between the manga and anime when it comes to Tataridamashi. Satoko never lure/seduce Keiichi to her house so Teppei can attack him, instead, they take a walk and return to the festival where Ooishi attacks and Satoko tries desperately tries to keep Keiichi from harm way and leaves her by force, despite Rika being already being dead meat. |
| Fuck Satoko, but man is she an entertaining villain lmao, what a little bitch indeed. Nice to see the good ol fingernail remover again, I don't why they censored it though when they showed much more worse things, but it still made me cringe. But Jesus Christ though, Mion stuffing Rika in the septic tank was something else. This is all pretty much build up to Satoko getting clapped at the end lmao, am really looking forward to that. Tatariakashi will be interesting though since it's Satoko focused. I enjoyed the first two arcs, but we do need some new shit. |
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Syureria said: I like the scene of Rika being kicked and then going down into the toilet, I like that scene, it's so funny. *Edit : I have to crop the image  That is without a doubt the most horrible and disgusting attempt to hide a body. Whoever of this must be a sick person Anyway I guess that's the end of this arc, on to the next one |
jTiKey said: Arzetya said: Wow, Yandere Simulator gameplay reference. Why did he do it at school? Rika Toilet-Bound Sheme: 1. Follow Rika 2. Kill Rika during school break 3. Hide corpse in warehouse 4. Enter class 5. Tell teacher to look outside 6. Find lock & padlock in teacher's office 7. Dispose body in toilet 8. Lock toilet. If in the game (i mean), everyone in school must be interrogated before being allowed to go home. Mion should get rid of all evidence, but here Mion left padlock which is actually a very strong piece of evidence, Mion could have been arrested right away. Thank you, you made my day. Why would an school outside toilet have such a big hole when there's little children using it? They could trip and fall into that. It looks like broken toilet. Before Mion brought Rika, there was a locked toilet scene & toilet with an open door while with Keiichi. Which means there are 2-3 toilets. |
ArzetyaJul 30, 2021 8:13 AM
| Good God, Poor Rika being pushed into the toilet was disturbing. But we got the answer to how Satoko and Mion died together so I'm satisfied. |
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| The famous Torture Nail Scene again, but god damn it why the Censorship... Wtf Rika-chan got stomped into the toilet was so brutal, god damn poor Rika-chan. I thought those people in uniform was from Yamainu, turns out it was Oishi Detective Team. Finally we learned how Satoko and Mion die in the hallway, that was pretty intense and brutal. The way Mion hand exploded, and they didn't bother to censored it... Lmao Such a Beautiful Slice of Life Anime... |
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| That got me holding my breath the whole time. Its very different seeing how nice Mion wanted to be while torturing the people closest to her. I appreciated it alot. Can't wait next episode : D |
Arzetya said: jTiKey said: Thank you, you made my day. Why would an school outside toilet have such a big hole when there's little children using it? They could trip and fall into that. It looks like broken toilet. Before Mion brought Rika, there was a locked toilet scene & toilet with an open door while with Keiichi. Which means there are 2-3 toilets. Why a broken toilet? That seems like a bad place to hide a body in. A toilet is bad enough, but I could see it working, there have been bodies found in somewhat similar situations like septic tanks, but why a broken toilet? |
| Serious question here: Do Japanese toilets have a big enough hole for a person to fit inside? How convenient for the plot? And those that think that they messed up the order, they didnt. Mion is having flashback at when she hid Rika.That's why it is locked when K1 tries to open it. It is still retarded that they arranged it like that tho. Anyway, the end was the most retarded shit I have seen. Satoko could probably be bound with chains, underwater, with a blindfold, with a gun inside her ass and no bullets and she would still shot first against her enemy. This isnt horror, mystery, drama or thriller. This is just a farce comedy. -Frederika Bernkastel, probably. |
ssjokgJul 30, 2021 1:13 PM
| Y'all, this is so fucking boring. Six episodes and all we've gotten is pointless Gou recaps and even more shots of Satoko looking smug. And if Tatariakashi is even longer... woof. |
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ssjokg said: Having been in Japan, no. The Japanese toilets didn't even have a hole in the middle straight down, they were more like western ones - the pipes go behind it, so to say.Serious question here: Do Japanese toilets have a big enough hole for a person to fit inside? How convenient for the plot? Also the holes could easily fit your fist but not much more. Then again this is 80's (tho dunno if that matters) and in the country side (guess they could have some engineers' specialty types there) Then again, I'd doubt an extremely rural and traditional village like Hinamizawa would have this type of septic tank toilet. You'd eventually need to empty it, and being deep underground, you'd need some heavy machinery for that. This isnt horror, mystery, drama or thriller. This is just a farce comedy. Ah yes..-Frederika Bernkastel, probably. Bern sure predicted the future. It did become a farce comedy. |
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Arzetya said: It looks like broken toilet. Before Mion brought Rika, there was a locked toilet scene & toilet with an open door while with Keiichi. Which means there are 2-3 toilets. Having a lock on a toilet is even more bizarre. |
Hulio said: Then again this is 80's (tho dunno if that matters) and in the country side (guess they could have some engineers' specialty types there) Then again, I'd doubt an extremely rural and traditional village like Hinamizawa would have this type of septic tank toilet. You'd eventually need to empty it, and being deep underground, you'd need some heavy machinery for that. People have outside toilets for centuries. I lived in a village that would be less advanced than a Japanese village and the hole is small. No one wants to fall into shit. |
jTiKey said: Well yes, I've done my business in several aswell.Hulio said: Then again this is 80's (tho dunno if that matters) and in the country side (guess they could have some engineers' specialty types there) Then again, I'd doubt an extremely rural and traditional village like Hinamizawa would have this type of septic tank toilet. You'd eventually need to empty it, and being deep underground, you'd need some heavy machinery for that. People have outside toilets for centuries. I lived in a village that would be less advanced than a Japanese village and the hole is small. No one wants to fall into shit. The difference however is the way of storing the waste. Not saying that I'm an expert of toilets, but if you poop in a hole long enough, the hole will get filled. And then what you do, shovel it out? If I had to say, a more common method in rural areas (atleast here) is that you poop in a container which you then replace. In this episode however, the hole seemed to lead couple, if not several meters below the surface, and I don't think that is exactly easy to deal with. The normal way would be to have that big poop truck sucking all the shit out of the tank, but in my personal opinion I don't really see those trucks rolling around Hinamizawa. [EDIT]Rereading your post I noticed my tired ass went completely off the topic, sorry for the inconvenience, lol. |
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Hulio said: Well yes, I've done my business in several aswell. The difference however is the way of storing the waste. Not saying that I'm an expert of toilets, but if you poop in a hole long enough, the hole will get filled. And then what you do, shovel it out? If I had to say, a more common method in rural areas (atleast here) is that you poop in a container which you then replace. In this episode however, the hole seemed to lead couple, if not several meters below the surface, and I don't think that is exactly easy to deal with. The normal way would be to have that big poop truck sucking all the shit out of the tank, but in my personal opinion I don't really see those trucks rolling around Hinamizawa. [EDIT]Rereading your post I noticed my tired ass went completely off the topic, sorry for the inconvenience, lol. My issue is not it being deep, but wide entrence. |
VirtueHunterJul 30, 2021 5:09 PM
| Mion was pretty interesting here. I wasn't expecting rika to go out in such a bizarre way but oh well. Fine ending for the arc I guess |
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Games_Wanderer said: Hulio said: Mion had Satoko on a gunpoint, and was already pressing trigger, meanwhile Satoko was carrying that big Soy Bottle. Then suddenly in split second she pulled that gun from her magic pocket and blew her guts out...? And of course Mion didn't see this happening. The gun was in the bottle. Satoko had broken it beforehand and she was holding the bottle in such a way that Mion couldn't see that it was broken or where her hand was. That is straight out your ass. |
Chargecoulomb said: Why a broken toilet? That seems like a bad place to hide a body in. A toilet is bad enough, but I could see it working, there have been bodies found in somewhat similar situations like septic tanks, but why a broken toilet? Just a possibility, I don't know why toilet broke for example with a hole in the middle like that. |
Games_Wanderer said: Hulio said: Mion had Satoko on a gunpoint, and was already pressing trigger, meanwhile Satoko was carrying that big Soy Bottle. Then suddenly in split second she pulled that gun from her magic pocket and blew her guts out...? And of course Mion didn't see this happening. The gun was in the bottle. Satoko had broken it beforehand and she was holding the bottle in such a way that Mion couldn't see that it was broken or where her hand was. Look at the scene again, the bottle is intact (and even disappeared after btw) |
prepare4trouble said: Mion is just not consistent. Not even talking about this arc vs. other series, but within this episode itself. Does she have a moral core, or not? Her crying while doing horrible things seems so insincere. Not to mention all her "oops" moments that she quickly moves on from. Does she think she's doing the right thing to keep Keiichi safe, or does she do things despite knowing it's wrong? Doesn't seem like Sotsu can decide. It's not just this quote, I'm seeing a multitude of users being confused by Mion's actions. It's Hinamizawa Syndrome. Mion literally can't help it. Not to put you down but I don't understand how someone who is this far into the series doesn't understand that yet. Mion has an impulsivity to be wrong yet 'right' based on the delusion complex that comes with the paranoia aspect of Hinamizawa Syndrome. (I think a better argument would be why Rena did what she did. Was it out of actual action or was she subject to the syndrome? In the Novel it certainly points to post-crime.) Is Mion / everyone else scratching their necks out of impulsivity or are they actually thinking their neck itches? It's a little bit of both - it's a mix of confusion and clarity which translates to insanity. That's why she's making hyperbolic and paradoxical decisions. In fact, it happens to everyone who gets subjected to the Hinamizawa Syndrome. I highly recommend reading the Sound Novels to ani-onlys. It's a different beast altogether and you'll connect the dots much quicker than just watching the original and kai. Everyone living there has a predisposition to this and it only takes the slightest inclination of paranoia for it to rear its ugly head and destroy lives. If you want to understand it completely and in better context I would recommend reading the Sound Novels. |
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| Oh boy. This was a game of who does who. Everybody's out there to one up the other. Poor Rika though. That disposal was utter gruesome. |
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_Alysha_ said: Not to "put you down", but that's not how the syndrome works.prepare4trouble said: Mion is just not consistent. Not even talking about this arc vs. other series, but within this episode itself. Does she have a moral core, or not? Her crying while doing horrible things seems so insincere. Not to mention all her "oops" moments that she quickly moves on from. Does she think she's doing the right thing to keep Keiichi safe, or does she do things despite knowing it's wrong? Doesn't seem like Sotsu can decide. It's not just this quote, I'm seeing a multitude of users being confused by Mion's actions. It's Hinamizawa Syndrome. Mion literally can't help it. Not to put you down but I don't understand how someone who is this far into the series doesn't understand that yet. Yeah it's true that "they can't help it" but that's a wrong way to put it. It would rather be "they have no reason to not help it". Nobody has never done things they don't want to do, they're doing these things because they "want" to do them. I don't remember a single character in this series crying that "this is not right, I don't want to do this" but rather "I didn't want this to happen, I didn't want to do this". That's why she's making hyperbolic and paradoxical decisions. In fact, it happens to everyone who gets subjected to the Hinamizawa Syndrome. Could you give an example for every character, preferably from OG.Not quite sure what you mean by this. |
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Hulio said: All of that is just the nature of the syndrome, Hinamizawa Syndrome. If I try to write it down here, it would take so much time. Also learning it from other people is no fun._Alysha_ said: Not to "put you down", but that's not how the syndrome works.It's not just this quote, I'm seeing a multitude of users being confused by Mion's actions. It's Hinamizawa Syndrome. Mion literally can't help it. Not to put you down but I don't understand how someone who is this far into the series doesn't understand that yet. Yeah it's true that "they can't help it" but that's a wrong way to put it. It would rather be "they have no reason to not help it". Nobody has never done things they don't want to do, they're doing these things because they "want" to do them. I don't remember a single character in this series crying that "this is not right, I don't want to do this" but rather "I didn't want this to happen, I didn't want to do this". That's why she's making hyperbolic and paradoxical decisions. In fact, it happens to everyone who gets subjected to the Hinamizawa Syndrome. Could you give an example for every character, preferably from OG.Not quite sure what you mean by this. |
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flashholter said: All of what exactly?All of that is just the nature of the syndrome, Hinamizawa Syndrome. If I try to write it down here, it would take so much time. Also learning it from other people is no fun. The syndrome doesn't turn people "crazy", they still act within the realm of their own toughts and are rational about it. Don't take mental conditions lightly. Don't know how much you value your time, but if you have nothing else to do, do write about it here. And what comes to learning from other people not being fun, I consider that the better option than living a lie and being wrong about something that they think is right. |
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Hulio said: All of the things people confuse about, especially about Mion.flashholter said: All of what exactly?All of that is just the nature of the syndrome, Hinamizawa Syndrome. If I try to write it down here, it would take so much time. Also learning it from other people is no fun. The syndrome doesn't turn people "crazy", they still act within the realm of their own toughts and are rational about it. Don't take mental conditions lightly. Don't know how much you value your time, but if you have nothing else to do, do write about it here. And what comes to learning from other people not being fun, I consider that the better option than living a lie and being wrong about something that they think is right. Do you watch the 1st season? The 2nd season (Kai)? 3rd (Gou)? The visual novel? People who read the visual novel tend to appreciate Higurashi story more. Now before I start explaining, let's make this a conversation so that I won't have to waste my energy explaning anything you might already know. How much do you know about Hinamizawa Syndrome, Oyashiro-sama's curse, the medicine that Satoko injected to her friends? |
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flashholter said: I've watched the previous season, read the Visual Novels and even own the Manga.Hulio said: All of the things people confuse about, especially about Mion.All of what exactly? The syndrome doesn't turn people "crazy", they still act within the realm of their own toughts and are rational about it. Don't take mental conditions lightly. Don't know how much you value your time, but if you have nothing else to do, do write about it here. And what comes to learning from other people not being fun, I consider that the better option than living a lie and being wrong about something that they think is right. Do you watch the 1st season? The 2nd season (Kai)? 3rd (Gou)? The visual novel? People who read the visual novel tend to appreciate Higurashi story more. Now before I start explaining, let's make this a conversation so that I won't have to waste my energy explaning anything you might already know. How much do you know about Hinamizawa Syndrome, Oyashiro-sama's curse, the medicine that Satoko injected to her friends? Asking "How much you know" I'd prefer to say everything, but there might be something I don't know/remember so let's just settle with "a lot". |
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flashholter said: How much do you know about Hinamizawa Syndrome, Oyashiro-sama's curse, the medicine that Satoko injected to her friends? Lets see Those inflicted with HS dont have moments of clarity during their rampage. They may appear sane but they are not. Mion in Sotsu goes back and forth. When Keichi killed Rena and Mion in Onikakushi, it was something he cried for but knew that he had to do or else he would die. When Rena believed every bullshit in Takano's notebook she didnt stop and think that "maybe everything here is bs". When Shion went on a rampage everything was calculated with no accidental deaths that she regretted. Oyashiro-sama curse doesnt exist, at least no how Takano and the 3 families(somewhat reluctantly) are trying to make use of it. The H-173 Satoko took should inflict terminal L5 fast to the point were the victim kills themselves, you know, the final stages. There is no need for a cause for their paranoia and the effects do not take days to manifest. Why is everyone so fine before the end of each arc? How many of those are true in SotsuGou? Maybe the curse unless it is an inconsequential red herring. And that's not even mentioning the plot armor of Satoko as the villain. |
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