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Mar 1, 2013 1:05 AM

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I guess i was reading to fast to notice this. I just read 42 chapters and too days and im shocked. I wonder who the hell is that ape titan clearly he got other agendas. Eren has no hope against the colossal titan.

TBH i hope the titans win at the end. Humans clearly did something for them to want to wipe them out. Since they dont touch any other type of animal.
Mar 2, 2013 8:46 PM

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the twist does seem a bit weird, hope later we get good explanations for this

guess who else is titan :)
Mar 3, 2013 2:31 PM
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Annie Killed 2 'subjet titans' = propably every titan is human with or without senses
Annie desperately fought to deny any information thus moment in which Ryner revealed hes secret isnt suprising at all since humans got hold of Ymir
big question is if Titans had power to kill humanity all this time why they havent done this yet
Mar 8, 2013 12:43 AM

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they should've included chapter 38 into the mixture of evidence, you can see reyner and berthold's face as they try and decieve connie
Needs more Drill Hair.
Apr 8, 2013 6:44 AM

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Holy shit. Ryner and Berthold were the two colossal titans from the beginning? Traitors and spies are everywhere. Or at least from their own training class. I thought the two were kidding him when they flat out revealed to Eren what they were.

So transforming into titans really is the in thing now... people are transforming left and right. Sorry Eren, you're not as special as I thought you were.
Apr 8, 2013 6:55 AM

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Remember when they got to Connie's village and they mentioned that there was no blood, or anything just the useless titan baby? I wonder (obvious speculation of course) if that village really didn't escape but THEY are the reason titan's are running amuck with no breakage in the wall. Like that entire village is/was titans. That is when the two of them decided to reveal themselves like maybe waring factions are trying to get their hands on Eren FOR his father.. i dunno, imagination kinda went crazy there.


Edit: And I just found this discussion thread saying the same thing on Mangafox..lol whatever i'm keepin it here... lol
Apr 8, 2013 1:20 PM
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Well this wasn't that big of a surprise given how Reiner and the rest of them have always been acting weird throughout the manga...

I'm guessing Eren's father is some experimenter turning people into Giants or some shit.

Then again, theres a 100 year lapse and they suddenly appeared. Knowing that, they all probably came from a human origin.

It might be some strange disease or whatever, but one thing is they mentioned about how despicable their lives were... Ymir I recall said something about her birth...

Implying that some other agent is responsible for making them giants...
They also mentioned about parents being giants, thus making the children giants too...

I really like the mystery aspect but I want to know where this is headed...

Why do they want to get rid of all of humanity?
Why can't they do it right again?
What are their goals? Their objectives?

If it's just one village being experimented on or whatnot, who and why are they responsible for this?
How were the walls made exactly with humanity driven to extinction? If the giants could use the reinforcing ability to reinforce the wall and make them, then why don't the humans know that there are giants of their own kind masquerading as humans when they first lived in the walls..

Why is every other giant an idiot, compared to the main cast turning into giants?

It just seems like shit sherlocks, lolol I'm a giant, oh so am I too, I just want to kill humans one day. If they are interested in Eren, the three of them could of banded up, crushed the wall and left already...

If the wall isn't breached, and that ape giant didn't came from that village of giants, and that giant said "oh nice gear you got there, so you know about us", what does that mean? Are there different factions of giants and whatnot? How does the female giant have the wolfpack call thing?

I mean it's interesting, but we haven't got anywhere to uncovering the whole truth of this matter. Its sort of random...

Also what did that needle do to him exactly? If Eren's father from 5 years in the past started acting differently after his mother was killedr, where did he disappear off to?

Why is the priest so surprised about the state of affairs with the walls and everything if his kind of cults knows everything there is to giants or are themselves a collection of giants having some objective?

Apr 8, 2013 1:32 PM

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Shaduge said:
what the fuck? let me say that again, what the fuck? I am not happy with this, my problem isn't that there are too many people transforming into titans, my problem is how random it is, not only do I feel like I'm missing some chapters in between but it's like the author just randomly chose two people to play the role, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out eren's mother is the final boss


Look at the link some1 posted about all the hints, it makes a lot of sense if you go re-read those chapters. Also, his mom is clearly dead, but his dad could be one of the big boss titan since he disappeared 5 years ago.
Apr 8, 2013 4:58 PM

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This chapter was very unpredictable...

3/5


I will read this... Thnks

@edit
lol, All these evidences and I didn't notice it. The guy who wrote this must be the mangaka. xD haha
Then... 5/5
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Apr 10, 2013 8:34 PM

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Great twist, but the execution was kinda forced. Did it really have to happen right now? He just went and told him. Hopefully the next chapters will reveal more about them.

I like how this twist makes sense and the author thought it up right from start. Most of the twists made sense and had various hints. There are quite a lot stories where twists make no sense and are basically asspulls. Thankfully, this one has legit twists.

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Apr 10, 2013 11:22 PM

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Ugh, this manga is getting silly. "I'm a titan!" "I'm a titan too!" "We are ALL titans!".
I also kind of though Ymir was all special with that "Ymir's people" thing from the journal/log book.. but probably not. i thought that was alluding to the Jotun/Giants mythology of the Norse BUT Nope...
Hopefully this will all make some sense and not just devolve into silly "TITAN WARZ!!" that then drags on and on like DBZ.
MaverynthiaApr 10, 2013 11:32 PM
Apr 11, 2013 7:20 AM

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Not sure why you guys are surprised, they mention several times that the Colossal titan and armored titan might be humans. Also I don't think just anyone can transform into a titan, it's probably Eren's dad that made Eren able to transform.
Apr 11, 2013 7:04 PM
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Maverynthia said:
Ugh, this manga is getting silly. "I'm a titan!" "I'm a titan too!" "We are ALL titans!".


It was stupid to begin with, Titans aren´t appearing out of nowhwere there is only Human group A vs. Group B. I highly doubt that they are "the last ones".
Apr 14, 2013 5:43 PM

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*Mindblown* Great chapter, did not see that coming although i'm now wondering how the heck these guys became Titans in the first place.
Apr 21, 2013 5:04 PM

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Peralisc said:
Kung-Fu-Jesus said:
Found this screencap that explains the revelation of Ryner and Berthold as Titans.
Easy to miss since it's a monthly manga but they are still there.
http://i.imgur.com/6aR04j5.png

hey, where's that from?

i'd like to read all of those explanations


It's from some guy's post at 4chan.
Can't give you a link since this was posted long before this chapter was released.
He predicted this at about chapter 35 I think, so props to him for paying attention to every small detail out there.

So yeah, apparently Ryner and Annie were working together all along while Ymir kept her secret to herself without Ryner knowing that she was a Titan.

EDIT: After searching a bit, I found that "Reiner = Titan" was a pretty popular theory on 4chan as well as other forums.
http://forums.mangafox.me/threads/367305-I-know-who-the-armored-and-colossal-titans-are...


Wow... That guy needs to become a detective
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May 4, 2013 1:02 PM

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I knew Annie was the female type Titan that was relatively easy to guess.
I always thought Ymir was a suspicious character too. But Reiner and Bertholdt? Titans?
It's a bitter pill to swallow because Reiner is so... human.
He's honorable, took care of the others and we saw his little crush on Christa too.
Maybe even his crush for Christa is not so simple too especially now we know her heritage. /paranoid
May 6, 2013 10:40 AM

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This is fucking stupid.
May 9, 2013 2:57 PM
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its getting stupid now, I was okay with Annie, Eren and Ymir being Titans, but this is now getting stupid.
May 9, 2013 3:52 PM
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however Reiner being a Titan sort a made sense, I noticed back in Chapter 23 that Reiner was wounded by Annie and a few pages later he was totally healed. I assumed it was just a mistake by the author, but its possible that its because Reiner healed himself with Titan powers.
May 9, 2013 4:08 PM

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Holy shit what?!?! They were the Colossal and Armor titans? Why? How? It seems almost like they don't want to be human, or more like they see themselves as another race, not an experimentation ... but so much doesn't make sense now, like why they acted the way they did, why they ever fought for humanity or other things like that ..
May 16, 2013 6:04 PM

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This sure would have been an interesting twist had it not been spoiled all over the place on the anime forum here. Fucking MAL...
May 19, 2013 5:22 AM

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I wouldve appreciated this twist if it happened long after ymirs titan appearance , human types appearing one after the other is just ridiculous
Jun 3, 2013 2:51 PM

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I need to re-read that manga, the author has been giving us hints here and there but I didn't catch at all! Five years ago Reiner and co didn't know about the existence of the people living inside the walls, I don't know if they took upon themselves to exterminate the humans or if they were ordered to do so and the reason why they spent all this time living among human.
Jun 11, 2013 2:39 AM

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Peralisc said:
WTH?

Now like every freaking one is a titan or what? Sigh i hate these sort of cliche. :/

Why is Reiner a titan now? What nonsense is this? It was just the last 2 chapters where he was shitting his pants to not get killed and now it turns out he is a titan?

Also why the hell does he even gets suspicious of Ymir being able to read that weird writing 2 chapters ago?

Things just don't add up anymore. Sigh.


Anyways it seems like theres a hard fight ahead for the rescue team and the secrets we waited so much to find out (now from Ymir) will probably have to wait few more chapters to finally come out. T_T


Oh and good luck Eren, you gonna need it in a 2 on 1 titan fight.

Fixed. Seriously, I love those new mysteries, but cliches are.. Now almost everyone in Eren's generation are titans.. Don't make them anymore special than they already are! Hell I loved Ryner, now he's just.. sigh seriously even if Ryner is on the good's side, I can't love him anymore, damn you, damn you all

Good twist but cliche, no wonder I felt that Ryner looked familiar, his hairstyle is the same as the armoured titan, totally..

And.. it'd be impossible for Eren to defeat the Colossal Titan, it's 60M tall, and Eren is just.. a 15M titan, and what's more, the armoured titan has armour harder than steel

m4rc0 said:
the fact that 5 human type titans and a link to the conspiracy are in the same rookie squad is very lame.


Edit: I can't possibly enjoy the anime anymore, I can't possibly love Ryner in the anime anymore, every time I think of him, I would go "Meh that's a human titan, AGAIN"
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Jun 29, 2013 8:39 AM

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Can't help but had a string snapped inside me after this chapter. In a good way.

I truly love how Isayama executed this reveal.
Being the biggest mystery so far, one of the main objective of the whole storyline, whose appearance takes mostly a spread and more often than not signals the beginning of a new freaking arc, Ryner and Berthold simply called Eren aside and told him that they're the armored and colossal titan respectively...
...in a panel smaller than a third of the page.

I went even more clueless than Eren. Was there a chapter I missed? Was it just a big bad joke?

Then the flashbacks came, and the foreshadows became clear, a thought came ... Both of them are just terribly desperate that, topped with the tension of faking the last three years, they can't think of anything better but do a direct invitation to Eren.

No big-villain moment of truth, no specific declaration of evil magnitude, just a freaking humane revelation out of desperate measures.

Craziness. Delicious craziness.

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Ryner

Berthodlt

you fucking

TRAITORS

I got goosebumps


And this.
Jul 14, 2013 7:06 AM
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Holy crap. Reiner and Berthold are Titans. Reiner is really suspicious for me after fighting Annie in her Titan form. How can he survived the hand grasp of a Titan? Wow.
Jul 16, 2013 9:46 AM

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ARE U FUCKING KIDDING ME
Jul 17, 2013 7:44 PM

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I found a leaked image of Sasha's titan form:

Aug 29, 2013 1:17 PM
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I expected it, but it was still surprising to see it.

Now I only hope there's a good and logical explanation, for this, otherwise the plot holes will be phenomenal.
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Sep 15, 2013 8:40 AM

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Reiner said:
Guten Morgen Eren, ich bin Armored Titan. Yoroshiku!

Say what? Reiner trolled here. Love it.
Sep 28, 2013 8:26 PM

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Holy shit what a reveal
Maaaan Eren seems pist. Don't understand any possible way he could beat either one of them though
Sep 29, 2013 2:17 AM

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Oh SHIT, that reveal they do kinda resemble there titan form but holy shit god dam traitors, time for the battle!
Sep 29, 2013 11:51 PM

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Page 28 - wow that's fast, Mikasa

Page 35 - that's one lame henshin page

Horrible artwork, as usual.
IsaHaji should be awarded The Manga with the Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances.
Y U NO collaborate with a REAL mangaka, IsaHaji?
Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances.
He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter.
Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga.
Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month.
Patiently awaiting SNK TV/movie/OVA anime-sequel.
The 2015 SNK live-action movie would probably suck.
Oct 2, 2013 10:31 PM

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WTF?!?!

Wait...HOW?!

Man....nothing makes sense anymore!
Oct 18, 2013 1:26 AM

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Everyone turning into titans is getting a little crazy now. It's like Bankai in Bleach. It was suppose to be a special thing but then everyone gets it.
Jan 1, 2014 8:22 PM

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Awesome chapter.

I loved how Reiner pulled Eren aside and droped those bombshells. The way Isayama set up that scene was phenomenal, in my opinion.

I was always weary of Reiner ( though these last few chapters really humanized him ) but Bertolt was right out of left field for me. Speaking of Bertolt, he did not seem pleased at all with Reiners plan.

Mikasa's attack was fast and brutal, and you could feel Eren's anger when he transformed at the end. Can't wait to see all of this animated.

Jan 25, 2014 2:44 AM

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Colossal Titan and armored Titan.... majestic epic plot twist. Reiner, you're still my favorite haha.


Jan 30, 2014 9:39 AM

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Jeez things are getting crazy, Bertolt and Reiner are both Titans? dafuq, and just a couple of chapters ago we learn Ymir is a titan? ( even though there was some foreshadowing) things are gonna go crazy in the next volume.
Feb 1, 2014 4:00 PM

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This is the chapter where the series well and truly went off the rails, for me. It blows my mind how out of character, anti-climatic and stupid the end of the chapter was. I already knew about Reiner and Bert thanks to anime thread spoilers, and there were enough hints/Reiner looking like a smug git throughout the manga for it not to be an arsepull. The author even said in an interview in the Eng release of v1 that he planned for something in v10. My problem isn't really with every and any teenager being a titan, though that's ruining the series by taking away the wow factor.

I'll break this down:

1: Reiner casually telling Eren his and Bert's identity, for no reason.
WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS WHEN YOU HAD ANNIE TRY TO KILL EVERYONE TO GET TO EREN, WHILST HIDING YOUR IDENTITY TO REMAIN A SPY!? Would it not have made sense to have had Annie just ask Eren on her own; not revealing the other two are titans? Ok, Mr. Monkey wasn't around before, but WHY DO YOU EVEN NEED EREN IN THE FIRST PLACE!? If you can't give a reason when you've killed 1000's, WHY EVEN ASK!?

2: Eren reacting nonplussed to the revelation that Reiner & Bert caused his mother's death.
This is the guy that killed two people as a kid, without hesitation. This is also the same guy that swore to kill every titan. When the guy responsible for ruining your life tells you to your face he's the big bad casually, NOT REACTING IS NOT THE LOGICAL RESPONSE! Even with the flashback, he didn't believe it was them, so his calm reaction STILL didn't make sense. And the "TRAITORS!!!!" line? Talk about a delayed reaction. My God... it should've been THE ANGRY MAIN CHARACTER slicing Reiner's arms off; not Mikasa.

My mind is just blown with the stupidity here. We just finished a lengthy Castle Utgard section where Reiner had every reason to give away his identity to survive. BUT-FUCKING-NO! Right AFTER their lives were in danger, only then did Reiner decide it was time for a fight that blew both his and Bert's cover... LONG AFTER he could've teamed up with Annie to destroy the Scout Legion. FUCKING NO! This is a series that has relied on mystery to mask a lack of story... and the big reveal is executed in the most anti-climatic manner in history?

At this point, I'm struggling to believe this is the same series I fell in love with when it first started. I feel like Jean when he "wiped away his trust in others" on Connie.
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Apr 5, 2014 9:48 AM

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So that really cool looking Colossal Titan on the promotional art and 1st volume was that dingus nobody Bertolt? C'mon Iseyama could've at least tried to give him some sort of interesting personality before doing this nonsense. Also this whole reveal was anti-climactic as fuck.
Apr 28, 2014 6:21 AM

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It was the stupidest twist so far. Let me check, I just might be a titan.
Jun 17, 2014 10:51 AM

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What a rushed way to announce who the Armored and Colossus titan is.
And then later in the chapter Reiner blames it on being tired, yeah like anyone would belive that someone could say such shit just because they are tired :P

Awesome though xD

Looking forward to watching season 2 of the anime, whenever that comes xD

Jun 17, 2014 11:07 AM

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Des said:
What a rushed way to announce who the Armored and Colossus titan is.
And then later in the chapter Reiner blames it on being tired, yeah like anyone would belive that someone could say such shit just because they are tired :P

Awesome though xD

Looking forward to watching season 2 of the anime, whenever that comes xD


The real reason will explain it in later chapter.
Aug 17, 2014 8:30 AM
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HOLY SH**! It was amazing and full of surprises! I was so surprised! In the end it looks like the wirters will say some stuff like "In every human, there is a bit Titan and in every Titan, there is a bit human" :D
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Aug 30, 2014 4:49 AM

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Found this fan made animation for part of the chapter

Sep 19, 2014 10:16 AM

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Wow, shit hit the fan in a spectacular way. Leading up to this chapter, I thought Reiner was acting way weird; he was constantly nervous, Bertoldt even more so. Reiner in particular seems very torn with whatever he seems to be trying to accomplish. But I love how Eren doesn't even doubt himself this time--not after Annie. Balls to the wall, he transforms too. LOVE IT.
Sep 28, 2014 4:49 AM

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Wow, really amazing.
Unfortunately I've already read a comment in youtube, where someone wrote, that they were titans. Still I didn't expect that they would reveal it theirselves and want Eren to come with them.
It wasn't me who was wrong, it was the world!
Oct 27, 2014 8:11 AM
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WTF?? Reiner Braun, you can't just come along and say, "Oh yeah, by the way, I killed your mom five years ago, but never mind that, we want you to come with us." WHAT THE FREAKING FACK?

And I find it funny how hesitant and unsure Bertholdt is in his human form, but as soon as he transforms he goes straight for killing the rest of the Recon Corps...
Jun 26, 2015 5:46 AM

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Armored Titan is really similar by ''face'' with Ryner :l
Jul 27, 2015 4:22 PM

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im a lil late but e everyone saying this is stupid and random complety skimmed through the whole manga missing the hints and arent using their brains.

i mean what was those 2 gonna do, it was the end. if ymir woke up shed probably help them discover thier identities. they were desperate nd took a chance.

As of now, please try to refrain from looking at MAL. its a complete mess right now T-T
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