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I've been Gintama fan since 2016. Gintama is my #1 most favorite anime & manga. Gintoki is my #1 most favorite anime & manga character, And if someone said Gintama is the best anime ever, I will agree with him/her (Since we have same opinion). But I'm sure Gintama isn't underrated. Gintama is just less popular than anime like AOT & MHA. Why is that?
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AOT and MHA (and Death Note and HxH and FMAB, etc.) are just that huge that Gintama is underrated by comparison. Anime fans and non-anime fans alike know those first names, but maybe not Gintama.
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Most people watch it thinking that it's an action anime and will loose interest after watching the first few eps as they are mainly comedy focused and aren't that funny compared to the rest of Gintama. Anime like AOT and MHA are good from the beginning and has higher appeal but Gintama isn't easy to get into as it will only get good as more episode goes by. So many viewers will loose interest and drop it before it gets good.
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Actually people uses the wrong term usually for gintama like shows they say it's underrated but it's not we can clearly see that gintama dominating top 25 with majority. So the correct term would be underwatched or least popular shonen series.
Sep 8, 2021 9:04 AM
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In the west its heavily underrated lol just look at members count on mal
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Lavi_kun said:
Actually people uses the wrong term usually for gintama like shows they say it's underrated but it's not we can clearly see that gintama dominating top 25 with majority. So the correct term would be underwatched or least popular shonen series.
more like underhyped...........
Sep 8, 2021 9:35 AM
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Why Fmab fans so toxic. How is Fmab better than Gintama wth, they are so annoying stop bombkng everything that surpasses fmab.
Sep 8, 2021 10:12 AM
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Bruuhhh
Gintama is in top 3 greatest shōnen in Japan alongwith one piece and DBZ according to a survey
And according to overall standing in top 100 animes in Japan , gintama is at 11 and in the top 10 , there are only echhi genre shows

So you can see that gintama is very popular in Japan and just lies next to one piece currently but in west , it would become popular in future
But gintama is known as peak fiction in Japan which mean greatest anime of all time

So 😁😁😁 gintama gets what it deserves in Japan and I am happy for that
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"Underrated" has turned into "I like it a lot" lately.
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You can't exactly call it underrated, I think underappreciated or just underwatched.

And it's not popular so ig you can call it underrated in that sense, just like how people call odd taxi underrated.
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TheFounder139 said:
Lavi_kun said:
Actually people uses the wrong term usually for gintama like shows they say it's underrated but it's not we can clearly see that gintama dominating top 25 with majority. So the correct term would be underwatched or least popular shonen series.
more like underhyped...........

Underhyped nah I mean it's always on hype whenever it's sequel came out yeah those hypes aren't like AoT or other Shonens tho but yeah hype was real those time of gintama too
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I started watching Gintama not too long ago and I think it's good. However, I'm struggling to stay invested. 353 episodes + movies is daunting.
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It’s underrated in terms of popularity for its quality but it’s still a very popular anime, moreso in Japan
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[I started watching Gintama not too long ago and I think it's good. However, I'm struggling to stay invested. 353 episodes + movies is daunting.]

I started watching it a few weeks ago and felt the same way for the first half of the first szn but it honestly gets so much better as it goes on. It honestly kind of depends on what you’re looking for in the show. I’ve seen so many different ppl talk about getting hooked on different episodes (30, 50, 100, 140) based on what they were mostly looking for. The comedy does get better as the seasons go on for sure, I personally didn’t find the beginning of the first season to be rly funny at all but Ive seen some episodes from the second half of the first season on that have had me crying laughing. If you’re looking more for the action side of things the first serious arc is episode 58 and it takes a while for them to show up more frequently. I personally didn’t get hooked until around 140 bc I found that around then the show started to have serious arcs that were more related to the characters themselves and I personally find the serious arcs to be the best part of the whole show. At this point I haven’t even gotten to the peak of them (I’m on ep 267 and I think from 300+ the show mainly gets into action and heavy stories). Either way I recommend trying to stick it out bc I think it will be worth it but it might take some time to rly get into it.
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They don't have a humour or they don't want some toilet jokes.



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Nah it is not about it being underrated, cuz gintama fans fully understand the greatness of gintama , beginning with it’s comedy and characters ending with it’s action
The true thing that it is underwatched outside from japan ….
Also many viewers can’t go beyond 30ep this makes them doubt about the show’s actual quality and the reasons of it being that high rated
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Why Fmab fans so toxic. How is Fmab better than Gintama wth, they are so annoying stop bombkng everything that surpasses fmab.
uummm...I'm sorry sir, But I'm just asking why people keep saying Gintama is underrated eventhough It's one of highest Rated anime in myanimelist. I'm not talking about FMAB here
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Ahmad2345 said:
I've been Gintama fan since 2016. Gintama is my #1 most favorite anime & manga. Gintoki is my #1 most favorite anime & manga character, And if someone said Gintama is the best anime ever, I will agree with him/her (Since we have same opinion). But I'm sure Gintama isn't underrated. Gintama is just less popular than anime like AOT & MHA. Why is that?
Yes the correct term to use would be unpopular and needs more popularity
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Why Fmab fans so toxic. How is Fmab better than Gintama wth, they are so annoying stop bombkng everything that surpasses fmab.
uummm...I'm sorry sir, But I'm just asking why people keep saying Gintama is underrated eventhough It's one of highest Rated anime in myanimelist.com

Sorry if I confused you about it. I don’t really know how to start a discussion or post here well I kind of suck. All I use MAL for is rating anime.

People call it underrated since it is not as popular in the west compared to Japan. For example Demon slayer is very popular in the west and also is popular in Japan. While compared to gintama you can only buy the manga legally all the way to volume 23 out of 77, gintama’s manga actually finished on its own app and can only be accessed legally in Japan. Demon slayer you can buy the entire manga series legally in the United States. Even though Gintama does dominate the top 25 anime of this website, the thing is that MAL is used internationally including Japan. Even the founder and owner of this site is Japanese and lives in Japan also. So when it does rankings for series i don’t know if it is based on region or if the ranking system is connected internationally.
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I've said it as a joke before but I don't think it's underrated. I mean, it has multiple entries in the top 50.




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Gintama is most likely overrated. I only consider the first season rating to be accurate, anything after that is literally just ratings from fans.
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This mostly has to do with the “West” side of the world. As it’s not that popular in the America’s and other countries outside of Japan. In that sense, it’s hella underrated.
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Majikkusesu said:
Gintama is most likely overrated. I only consider the first season rating to be accurate, anything after that is literally just ratings from fans.
season 2 , 3 and 5 are all better than the first one in terms of everything lol
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"Underrated" has turned into "I like it a lot" lately.
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season 2 , 3 and 5 are all better than the first one in terms of everything lol


I don't think so. It started taking itself too seriously after S3. Comedy Gintama >>> serious Gintama.



So you're one of the guys who just like the comedic part of the series , bro taking itself seriously is not something wrong cuz it is "shonen" overall
While I can agree that it's comedy is by far the best thing about the series after it's characters... Gintama can give some great action in terms of quality..

Not liking this action doesn't make it overrated


I hope people someday will stop taking Gintama as a comedy and look at the potential it has in terms of writing quality
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IntrigueTangiers said:
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season 2 , 3 and 5 are all better than the first one in terms of everything lol


I don't think so. It started taking itself too seriously after S3. Comedy Gintama >>> serious Gintama.
to be honest, I love both Comedy and Serious moments in Gintama. Without those Serious moments, Those Comedy moments won't feel heavy and vice Versa. So Comedy Gintama = Serious Gintama
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Not_me200 said:
IntrigueTangiers said:


I don't think so. It started taking itself too seriously after S3. Comedy Gintama >>> serious Gintama.



So you're one of the guys who just like the comedic part of the series , bro taking itself seriously is not something wrong cuz it is "shonen" overall
While I can agree that it's comedy is by far the best thing about the series after it's characters... Gintama can give some great action in terms of quality..

Not liking this action doesn't make it overrated


I hope people someday will stop taking Gintama as a comedy and look at the potential it has in terms of writing quality
true. Both Comedy and Serious moments in Gintama are what made Gintama unique, Or you Can say.... "Perfectly balanced"
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No one understood what i actually tried to say. There's nothing inherently wrong with serious arcs; hell, Yoshiwara in Flames is among my favorite ones. The issue i have with the later half of Gintama is that it lost what made it good on the first place. Serious arcs once in a while gave a lot of the characters more depth, i agree; but when it became full battle shonen i felt that it lost most of its charm. It happens a lot with most comedy series; adding some unnecesary "serious" plotline as a way of giving the story a closure never works quite well. That's not what Gintama was about.

It seems like is an unpopular opinion, but i don't care: Silver Soul arc as a whole was very mediocre. Gintama is overlooked by most; but is insanely overrated by its fans. I've never seen them engaging into some proper criticism. S1 is peak Gintama. Watching it for the "serious" arcs is a very dumb way of approaching it.


I don’t think tho
Actually if you see my ratings you will see that I didn’t rate the later seasons as high …
But somehow every arc did manage to do something in a good way
For ex :
Ryouku arc did give kamui,oboro and kagura great depth and development..
You now know kamui is not a one dimensional character… oboro's backstory is actually believable and relatable making him realistic , the arc had lots of 1vs1 fights wich felt shonen also flashbacks were tall compared to the manga … so the arc had great things and its flaws

For silver soul arc the first part was meh for me nothing special and felt stretched…

The second part sure was shonen but it was a great shonen ,, this season shows how deep and complicated utsoru is … the last fight was amazing with some memorable meanings also the episodes after time skip were hilarious and felt like gintama
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IntrigueTangiers said:
"I hope people someday will stop taking Gintama as a comedy and look at the potential it has in terms of writing quality"

Are you implying that comedy and """writing quality""" (whatever does that mean) can't go hand in hand? Ridiculous. It seems like for some of you guys having serious arcs is the only way to give Gintama some legitimacy. I think you're the ones that are taking it too seriously, not me. How ironic.


Nah I didn’t ever take gintama seriously, in fact I didn’t expect anything other than pure comedy
And what I got was peak fiction ..NOW I take it seriously knowing that it is not only comedy it is literally everything and that what makes it special

And my standards for “writing qualities” are mostly about the cast , how drama is introduced , and how every character react to each other … which in fact gintama does perfectly
Sure the comedy arcs provide some character development… but only the serious arc made the characters as well written…
Gintoki being a goated written character is not only because his personality but also because of everything happened to him before and how he ended up being the way he is because of these things ..


Maybe good comedy is an example of good writing, but the interactions between characters , the stories where they truly show their depth and how these stories are done what makes something really well written for me
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IntrigueTangiers said:
"Only the serious arcs made the characters well written" i see, thank you for proving my point ↓

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It seems like for some of you guys having serious arcs is the only way to give Gintama some legitimacy.


The comedy arcs are what truly made Gintama great, but there you go i guess.
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"Only the serious arcs made the characters well written" i see, thank you for proving my point ↓

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It seems like for some of you guys having serious arcs is the only way to give Gintama some legitimacy.


The comedy arcs are what truly made Gintama great, but there you go i guess.


Plz god … I did say that the previous seasons are way better… but I also said that action and drama arcs are as necessary.
Bro first time I watched the mitsuba arc I said omg the relationship between toshi and sougo is just deeper than I thought ..
You want convince we would have seen this depth by a comedy arc ?

Also I talked about each arc in a different perspective which you just skipped and took that sentence you want to see
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It's because people think underrated=not popular
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Gintama is under watched not underrated
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Gintama is most likely overrated. I only consider the first season rating to be accurate, anything after that is literally just ratings from fans.
season 2 , 3 and 5 are all better than the first one in terms of everything lol

I'm not basing this on the perceived quality of each season. Every season acts as a filter for viewers who didn't like the show or just got tired of watching it; just look at the viewer counts. It's also pretty common for multi-season shows to get higher ratings in subsequent seasons unless they just fall off. Some shows have worse follow on seasons but still get rated higher, which is why I would only consider the rating from the first season to be an accurate rating. You're not going to get viewers who want to rate Gintama a 6 in season 5.
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Because many people don't know how to use 'underrated' term correctly, or should i say don't know the meaning of 'underrated' itself.


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The comedy arcs are what truly made Gintama great, but there you go i guess.
Exactly. I would prefer comedy episodes over "serious" episodes any day. Serious arcs are just generic shounen arcs imho. The renowned SA/FS arcs are no exception to this.
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Majikkusesu said:
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season 2 , 3 and 5 are all better than the first one in terms of everything lol

I'm not basing this on the perceived quality of each season. Every season acts as a filter for viewers who didn't like the show or just got tired of watching it; just look at the viewer counts. It's also pretty common for multi-season shows to get higher ratings in subsequent seasons unless they just fall off. Some shows have worse follow on seasons but still get rated higher, which is why I would only consider the rating from the first season to be an accurate rating. You're not going to get viewers who want to rate Gintama a 6 in season 5.


I actually don't get your pov but as a fan .. I did rate all the seasons after 4 lower than the previous ones , cuz they are easily aren't the same quality... so it is not strange to find a fan who will rate based into the quality not him wanting to rate all seasons 10 ..

Also yeah ofc SA , FS are generic shonen ..but It is "great" generic shonen these arcs gave some great action and made every character realistic and deep ..

If you say these are generic then every shonen arc is generic, and there is no difference in quality..

Only serious Gintama make the characters as deep as they are isn't that right?

Also you know bro these seasons you call fillers are the same thing we wish we had more of , s2 had better comedy Gintama ratings are high for seasons who deserve if not you could have seen ss arc rated higher
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It's not just as popular as it's other shounen counter parts
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Only diehard fanboys say that. Gintama is actually quite overrated even though it's underwatched
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I've been Gintama fan since 2016. Gintama is my #1 most favorite anime & manga. Gintoki is my #1 most favorite anime & manga character, And if someone said Gintama is the best anime ever, I will agree with him/her (Since we have same opinion). But I'm sure Gintama isn't underrated. Gintama is just less popular than anime like AOT & MHA. Why is that?


Yeah it’s a common misconception, unpopular and underrated are different. Although some people underrate it since they don’t give it a chance tho
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As a Gintama fan, i think it is deserving of the hype it is receiving lately. However when I started watching Gintama 3 years ago, it had a very underrated score and had a small fanbase with limited popularity compared to other top rated anime of the time.

Gintama started airing in 2006 but did not get the attention it deserved until over a decade later which is why i believe people say Gintama is underrated.
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Majikkusesu said:

I'm not basing this on the perceived quality of each season. Every season acts as a filter for viewers who didn't like the show or just got tired of watching it; just look at the viewer counts. It's also pretty common for multi-season shows to get higher ratings in subsequent seasons unless they just fall off. Some shows have worse follow on seasons but still get rated higher, which is why I would only consider the rating from the first season to be an accurate rating. You're not going to get viewers who want to rate Gintama a 6 in season 5.


I actually don't get your pov but as a fan .. I did rate all the seasons after 4 lower than the previous ones , cuz they are easily aren't the same quality... so it is not strange to find a fan who will rate based into the quality not him wanting to rate all seasons 10 ..

Also yeah ofc SA , FS are generic shonen ..but It is "great" generic shonen these arcs gave some great action and made every character realistic and deep ..

If you say these are generic then every shonen arc is generic, and there is no difference in quality..

Only serious Gintama make the characters as deep as they are isn't that right?

Also you know bro these seasons you call fillers are the same thing we wish we had more of , s2 had better comedy Gintama ratings are high for seasons who deserve if not you could have seen ss arc rated higher

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I'm not sure if this was supposed to be a response to what I said or not, but I'm not sure how subsequent seasons being overrated by way of viewership loss doesn't make sense. If someone didn't like a show why would they continue to watch more seasons?

Gintama S1 had 860k viewers.
Gintama S2 had 420k viewers.
...
Gintama: The Final had 73k viewers.

After the first season the viewership was cut in half and by The Final it's like 1/12th the original viewership. every season loses more viewers who either got bored or stopped liking the show.
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Majikkusesu said:
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I actually don't get your pov but as a fan .. I did rate all the seasons after 4 lower than the previous ones , cuz they are easily aren't the same quality... so it is not strange to find a fan who will rate based into the quality not him wanting to rate all seasons 10 ..

Also yeah ofc SA , FS are generic shonen ..but It is "great" generic shonen these arcs gave some great action and made every character realistic and deep ..

If you say these are generic then every shonen arc is generic, and there is no difference in quality..

Only serious Gintama make the characters as deep as they are isn't that right?

Also you know bro these seasons you call fillers are the same thing we wish we had more of , s2 had better comedy Gintama ratings are high for seasons who deserve if not you could have seen ss arc rated higher

Filters with a T.

I'm not sure if this was supposed to be a response to what I said or not, but I'm not sure how subsequent seasons being overrated by way of viewership loss doesn't make sense. If someone didn't like a show why would they continue to watch more seasons?

Gintama S1 had 860k viewers.
Gintama S2 had 420k viewers.
...
Gintama: The Final had 73k viewers.

After the first season the viewership was cut in half and by The Final it's like 1/12th the original viewership. every season loses more viewers who either got bored or stopped liking the show.

Yeah cuz most viewers can't go beyond that season they just either drop it or don't complete the seasons after it ..
You know gintama is just not for everybody

And those 800k are all the viewers who watched, planning to watch the series , dropped for a while and forever

It is just not all people can watch +300ep of something they don't like

And usually seasons after s1 don't have users as much .. same thing can be implied with aot (one of the most popular)
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As a Gintama fan, i think it is deserving of the hype it is receiving lately. However when I started watching Gintama 3 years ago, it had a very underrated score and had a small fanbase with limited popularity compared to other top rated anime of the time.

Gintama started airing in 2006 but did not get the attention it deserved until over a decade later which is why i believe people say Gintama is underrated.


True Gintama is nowhere underrated now it was underrated but now it is underwatched
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They mean to say it's under appreciated, as in not mainstream, and that it deserves to be
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I actually don't get your pov but as a fan .. I did rate all the seasons after 4 lower than the previous ones , cuz they are easily aren't the same quality... so it is not strange to find a fan who will rate based into the quality not him wanting to rate all seasons 10 ..

Also yeah ofc SA , FS are generic shonen ..but It is "great" generic shonen these arcs gave some great action and made every character realistic and deep ..

If you say these are generic then every shonen arc is generic, and there is no difference in quality..

Only serious Gintama make the characters as deep as they are isn't that right?

Also you know bro these seasons you call fillers are the same thing we wish we had more of , s2 had better comedy Gintama ratings are high for seasons who deserve if not you could have seen ss arc rated higher

Filters with a T.

I'm not sure if this was supposed to be a response to what I said or not, but I'm not sure how subsequent seasons being overrated by way of viewership loss doesn't make sense. If someone didn't like a show why would they continue to watch more seasons?

Gintama S1 had 860k viewers.
Gintama S2 had 420k viewers.
...
Gintama: The Final had 73k viewers.

After the first season the viewership was cut in half and by The Final it's like 1/12th the original viewership. every season loses more viewers who either got bored or stopped liking the show.


Gintama season 1 only has 260 scores, most of those members are PTW and people who dropped/have it on hold
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The earlier arc were enjoyable with focus on comedy and anime references. The action scene, later on are cool, but wasn't the focus on why I love early Gintama.

I consider Gintama to be borderline mainstream.
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No one understood what i actually tried to say. There's nothing inherently wrong with serious arcs; hell, Yoshiwara in Flames is among my favorite ones. The issue i have with the later half of Gintama is that it lost what made it good on the first place. Serious arcs once in a while gave a lot of the characters more depth, i agree; but when it became full battle shonen i felt that it lost most of its charm. It happens a lot with most comedy series; adding some unnecesary "serious" plotline as a way of giving the story a closure never works quite well. That's not what Gintama was about.

It seems like is an unpopular opinion, but i don't care: Silver Soul arc as a whole was very mediocre. Gintama is overlooked by most; but is insanely overrated by its fans. I've never seen them engaging into some proper criticism. S1 is peak Gintama. Watching it for the "serious" arcs is a very dumb way of approaching it.


Gintama’s serious plot was laid out from umibozu and benizakura very early on, and details kept building in the backgrounds of many arcs, until it exploded in SA onward. It didn’t just randomly gain a serious story. It had been set up and foreshadowed since very early on. As early as episode 13, 17, and 27.
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People resume Gintama exclusively to it's anime references and comedy content, without focusing on how outstanding it's the story and character development
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Mostly because it's lack of popularity in the West and the fact that it's barely mentioned in anime communities outside of Japan. However, as we should know by now, Gintama dominates MyAnimeList's top spots.

So it's just another case for confusing the two terms "underrated" and "unpopular".
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Because it is super underrated. People know Naruto, One Piece, and Bleach more than Gintama. I found out about Gintama through MAL and it's become one of my all-time favorite series.
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» Can someone explain me how gintoki killed utsuro?

DENAM_106 - Jun 26, 2023

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Jul 17, 2023 10:22 AM
It’s time to ditch the text file.
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